Apple is getting this wrong

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OpenAI rebuts Apple's trade-secret lawsuit as careless and based on false information.

OpenAI argues Apple's lawsuit is careless and based on false claims. Apple admitted it emailed the wrong person (confusing two Asian last names) and never had the alleged discussion with OpenAI's General Counsel. Apple employees asked former employee Chang Liu for help locating files after he left, contradicting accusations of unauthorized access. OpenAI states it does not want or possess Apple trade secrets and offered to resolve issues before the lawsuit was filed. The post includes iMessage logs showing Liu assisting former colleagues and emails showing Apple's lawyers acknowledged an error.

What commenters are saying

Commenters are split. Some doubt OpenAI's selective evidence, noting Apple's complaint includes unaddressed evidence like prototypes. Others argue Apple's practice of letting employees use personal iCloud accounts for work data is negligent, potentially weakening its trade-secret protections. A key observation: Apple encourages personal iCloud use on corporate devices, making it hard to separate data. This policy is seen as amateur and contradictory to protecting secrets. Several commenters note this legal battle will likely hinge on Apple's own security practices.